“If you are afraid to speak against tyranny, then you are already a slave.” –author John “Birdman” Bryant (1943-2009)
“Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.” –American author Mark Twain (1835-1910)
“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” ~~ Edmund Burke
“There is no safety for honest men, but by believing all evil of evil men, and by acting with promptitude, decision, and steadiness on that belief.” ~~ Edmund Burke
Good quotes. You seem blogroll material to me.
A motivating discussion is definitely worth comment.
I believe that you need to write more about this subject, it may not be a taboo matter but usually folks don’t discuss
such issues. To the next! Many thanks!!
“The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.” Thought this particular Churchill quote was appropriate. Thank you for having the courage to speak out.
I don’t understand why more LEO’s refuse to recognize the state of the nation and the problems we are having with out-of-control law enforcement. I guess I hang out with the wrong crowd. You know: Constitutionally-aware deputies, Christian officers, and others that understand their duty not just as a public servant, but a member of the human race.
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Hiring practices are not what they once were.
Probably comes down to putting food on the table.
An interesting discussion is worth comment.
I do believe thqt you need too publish more on this
issue, it may not bee a taboo subject but generally people do not talk
about these subjects. To the next! Many thanks!!
I’m amazed, I have to admit. Rarely do I encounter a blog that’s both educative and interesting, and without a doubt, you have hit the nail on the head.
The problem is something which not enough people are speaking intelligently
about. I am very happy that I found this during my hunt
for something regarding this.
Well-established blog. Hmmm…. never considered DD to be that well established. I created it to blow off steam and try to educate anyone that would listen, if my opinions are worth anything. The blog doesn’t take a lot of work unless you want to personally write articles. I did a lot of that to set up the blog originally, but now only try to blog when I can provide pertinent info. You’ll notice that I reblog lots of things that express my personal opinions. Nice to let someone else do the work. Tips and ideas? Write about what you know. I write about law, law enforcement, guns, knives, and other tools of the trade. One thing that gets me in a writing mood is when I see something being misrepresented and I try to help people understand. Stuff like tools (guns, knives, TASERS, etc.) and legal and procedural misconceptions.
Thank you. You are very kind. I wish I had more time to write my own stuff. I have a post-apocalyptic novel that stalled out after 36 chapters and I’d love to get back to it if I ever find the time.
Similar to the multi-part novel by A. American?
I have not read any of A. American’s writings.
Well, that explains a lot. You got further than I did, though.
What is your opinion about this incident?
I think the Deputies acted reasonable at the beginning but due to a lack of character and ethics the situation got out of control.
20+ minutes in to the video and have not seen any mistreatment of the subject. It does bother me that he was left face-down for an extended period, as this can lead to positional asphyxia. Subject complains of being unable to breathe. Should have been rolled onto his side to a recovery position, in my opinion. The nurse did not really examine him, merely asked intake questions, a task performed by booking techs in our jail.
I’d have had him up and strapped into a restraint chair which would protect both the subject and the deputies. Subject continues to resist the deputies. I feel that the booking tech should have waited to ask the intake questions until the subject was subdued and ready to talk. It might take a day in the rubber room or the restraint chair, but he would grow some brain cells eventually and he would have had his mug shot taken and his fingerprints at that time.
At 36 minutes subject quits resisting enough to be placed on the gurney, but is put face down, which again I do not agree with, again citing the possibility of positional asphyxia. Had he been placed face up and restrained with the straps on the gurney, that would have been the time for the nurse to fully examine him. When subject is placed in padded cell, it is again in face down position to take cuffs off. I prefer to make them kneel in the corner, and with one deputy controlling their head (and so their entire body) by pushing it into the corner, another deputy removes the cuffs. Nurse comes into cell at about 42 minutes, but by that time it was too late. I stopped watching at that point, not out of lack of interest, but due to lack of time available. I really hate to second guess other officers, but the only issue I have with their actions is that they didn’t TASER the idiot and put him in a restraint chair in the first 5-10 minutes, and that they kept him in a face down position which in my book is a big no-no.
Other points I’d like to address: 1. The state and local mental health facilities have no money so mentally disturbed folks like this just get dumped in county jails where they do not get proper medical or psychological treatment. 2. Without putting a severe whooping on a subject it can be extremely hard to control them. You are faced with a situation of using ‘excessive force’ or having half a dozen deputies hold them down so they do not hurt themselves or anyone else. I thought except for one kick the deputies did a great job of restraining their anger and irritation with this idiot that refused to cooperate and continued to resist the officers. 3. The Sargent in charge did not appear to have standardized procedures to deal with such a situation (mental instability, possible intoxication, resisting deputies, spitting, etc.). Not necessarily their fault, more likely the department’s fault.
I’ll try to find the time to watch the rest of the video. In the meantime, what was the cause of death determined to be? My guess is asphyxia or heart failure, possibly exacerbated by whatever drugs he received at the hospital, but then again I’m no doctor, nor do I play one on TV.
REMSA paramedics also came to help. A while later he was taken to hospital by ambulance and was pronounced dead three days later after they took him off life support.
As to the cause of death the video states:
“The cause of death was homicide by complications being physically restrained.”
I don’t see no homicide.
The one thing they could have done in my opinion was to take off the spit mask as soon he was secured face down on the floor.